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TheArchitect
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Post subject:  Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:15 pm |
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Did it not start well at that temp?
Extra advance when cold will often allow the engine to start and run when its cold.
You cant go nuts becuase the combustion chambers heat faster than the coolant does and the potential for knock is there.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:32 pm |
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Not very well, took a few tries 
As a result of this weekends tuning I lost my fatter cold prime settings (reset to a file from a diff laptop) and I have not had a chance to re-fatten them.
I'll bump the adv a bit and see if it helps.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:34 pm |
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If you run into a cold snap, cycling the the key on and off is a good way to get extra cold start enrichment without using the laptop. It also helps you to know what you should change the settings to.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:35 pm |
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You might have to do some tweaking, but I've got a decent PWM table for the 2-wire ISV...if you've got a GPO to run it on, I've just got it setup off the manifold with a check valve and breather filter on it to keep it from leaking boost. Not as nice as the closed loop thing 034 sells, but the car starts and idles up straight away in the morning when it's stupid cold out, and doesn't bog when loaded with accessories when warm.
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Mcstiff
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:43 pm |
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karthurtq wrote: If you run into a cold snap, cycling the the key on and off is a good way to get extra cold start enrichment without using the laptop. It also helps you to know what you should change the settings to.
Yep, good method. I am working on getting it to work with as few user imputs as I can. Right now I can jump in cycle the key and modulate air with my foot no problem. The idea is to get it to the point that I can just turn the key and have a nice quick start every time.
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:03 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: karthurtq wrote: If you run into a cold snap, cycling the the key on and off is a good way to get extra cold start enrichment without using the laptop. It also helps you to know what you should change the settings to. Yep, good method. I am working on getting it to work with as few user imputs as I can. Right now I can jump in cycle the key and modulate air with my foot no problem. The idea is to get it to the point that I can just turn the key and have a nice quick start every time. Keep in mind that there is a hot/cold threshold with independent prime PW and qty numbers for each condition.
If the engine will start easily down to 32, then set that as the threshold and double or triple the number of pulses.
Also it can take time to get up to pressure so make sure you have fuel pressure or all the pulses in the world wont yield much fuel.
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SeStone
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:13 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Just saw that PLX has a gauge that talks CAN (Then I noticed that all of their products have a opperating range of 0-85ºC. Weird)
Oooh, anyone at 034 know it will talk to a IIc?
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:24 pm |
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SeStone wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Just saw that PLX has a gauge that talks CAN (Then I noticed that all of their products have a opperating range of 0-85ºC. Weird) Oooh, anyone at 034 know it will talk to a IIc? Sam No it will not, that is this is the first I have heard about it.
Sounds like it might be a good idear to support it though.
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:25 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug.
Huh?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:26 pm |
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TheArchitect wrote: SeStone wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Just saw that PLX has a gauge that talks CAN (Then I noticed that all of their products have a opperating range of 0-85ºC. Weird) Oooh, anyone at 034 know it will talk to a IIc? Sam No it will not, that is this is the first I have heard about it. Sounds like it might be a good idear to support it though. Very good idea!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:54 pm |
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TheArchitect wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Huh? Translation: He wants a IIc, he got the IIc itch, a IIc would put a bump in his shorts, etc, etc.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:01 pm |
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newt wrote: TheArchitect wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Huh? Translation: He wants a IIc, he got the IIc itch, a IIc would put a bump in his shorts, etc, etc. 
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Mcstiff
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:10 pm |
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newt wrote: TheArchitect wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Huh? Translation: He wants a IIc, he got the IIc itch, a IIc would put a bump in his shorts, etc, etc. Bug
Noun
3 informal : he caught the journalism bug obsession, enthusiasm, craze, fad, mania, passion, fixation.
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:10 pm |
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newt wrote: TheArchitect wrote: Mcstiff wrote: I all ready have the IIc bug. Huh? Translation: He wants a IIc, he got the IIc itch, a IIc would put a bump in his shorts, etc, etc. Gosh, any time you say "has an itch" and "bump in his shorts" in the same sentence, it congers thoughts of a skanky ho, or the consequences thereof.
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Mcstiff
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:12 pm |
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I just want more GPO's :dirty:
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No it will not, that is this is the first I have heard about it.
Sounds like it might be a good idear to support it though.
That would be great! AIM is cool but a smaller multi-function gauge that you could put where the trip or Autocheck resides would be cool.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:24 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: I just want more GPO's :dirty: TheArchitect wrote:
No it will not, that is this is the first I have heard about it.
Sounds like it might be a good idear to support it though.
That would be great! AIM is cool but a smaller gauge that you could put where the trip or Autocheck resides would be cool. Are you running a 5 cyl engine?
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:33 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: Yep, 7a with the 034 turbo kit and Ic.
Bummer, if it was a 4 we could have gotten you another GPO.
Are you doing dizzy ignition I presume?
If so we could jumper the second driver to the spare GPO.
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TheArchitect
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:05 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: Yes dizzy. IIRC you cannot run COP IGN with the Ic and 5 holes.
No but it is possible to use two drivers on 5 cyls using 2 waste spark coil drivers and 3 waste spark coils.
You run out of spark though at low RPMs.
Anyhow your ECU can be modified to use the second coil driver as a second GPO.
Interested?
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:39 pm |
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Mcstiff wrote: YES! Unless Nate (he built the car) can site a reason that this will not work here.
Well I can assure you it will work, but feel free to talk to Nate.
If and when you are squared then contact me, you can bring it by get if modified then take it home.
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