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1984 Ur-quattro 20vt, 336whp 380 torques, 6-speed

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Yes, it's possible, but a PITA. Much better to just swap with proper analogue one.
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Bit of an update, since first page is full of Ur-q projects.. ;)

Block is back from machine shop and crank is installed.
Just need to get the rods/pistons in in our next wrenching session.

As for the body, it's been a very busy spring for me but not on the car.
The only thing I managed is to install the rear smoked tails, tidy up the valance and get the trunk panels on.

Mike Sylvester was nice enough to supply me with some door rings and trunk decals, thos will be going on this weekend.
He also made up some under hood decals, but they won't see a working engine for a while.

MTM intake manifold is on it's way from Europe.. the Euro is great now for buying over there.

Subframe and suspension components are back from powdercoating so next week's project is to get the suspension back under the car so I can roll it out of the garage and powerwash the engine bay.

More to follow.

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85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
86 4000 quattro with 59,000km on the clock
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So, more updates.

Trunk compartment is all back together including spare wheel, rear bumper back on and the car is back on it's wheels.

Eibach/Sportwheels springs and Bilstein shocks topped with Compbrake top mounts. Subframes have 034 solid mounts. Brand new tie rods and RR control arms and ball joints up front.

Managed to get all of the trim back on around the windows etc.

Engine is back home and awaits the 6-speed from Europe.
Also the MTM manifold arrived, looking great.
Decided to go with a 28x9x2.5 intercooler up front, I hope I don't need any Vaseline to get this puppy in there.. ;)

Time is flying and I am loosing hope that this thing will see the road this year.
Still have the interior to go back in and obvioulsy the entire engine compartment needs to go back in. On top all the small stuff like fuel/brake lines etc. etc.

Good thing is I managed to get another set of Sport Q front calipers so those will be used instead of the Boxster units.

More to follow, and I promise to take some pics.

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85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
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I know how you feel. I've already got snow on the brain and its only June. I've got so much work to do and so little time. Can't wait to see the pictures!

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Looks great so far! Are you going to keep the 15x7 R8's or will they be replaced with something else?

I wish I could get my hands on a UrQ shell, the 20vt in my CGT would be right at home. Then I could get a vanilla 20v and make my CGT more of a posh daily driver. Oh well, it'll get to stay aggressive as all hell for quite some time.

I look forward to see where this UrQ goes, it's definitely in good hands.

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So, here are some pics

Back end almost all complete, just need the black backing for the plate area.

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Trunk also complete, just missing the antenna, can't decide if I want the manual or the power unit.

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Engine compartment powerwashed and ready for stuff to start going back in.

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Suspension back on the car, all new shocks/springs and powdecoated struts/subframes.

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Interior not so pretty yet, but slowly getting there.
I haven't found any brown carpet yet, doh! Might have to get the brand new black set in there.. not the end of the world.
Today I got couple of wiring harnesses back in and the floor is all done, now comes the fun part, getting all the shiny bits back on.

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83 80 q - Euro 2-door!!
85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
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86 5000CD quattro avant, all original
93 90q - 2.5TDI, 6-speed
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Hello Martin:

Looking *very* nice!

Looking at your pictures.. What are you using for front tierods? I don't see the 'normal' urq 'inboard' adjuster anywhere, and I'd like to know if/how you made the passenger tierod end adjustable.

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That's one clean engine bay!

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Looking *very* nice!

Looking at your pictures.. What are you using for front tierods? I don't see the 'normal' urq 'inboard' adjuster anywhere, and I'd like to know if/how you made the passenger tierod end adjustable.


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Well, since this is going to be a 20v I don't have to worry about the wastegate placement a'la 10vt, so this one happens to be a brand new 90q assembly with Rabbit/Scirocco tie rod end to match the strut taper. The driver side is a new stock 4kq assembly again with a Rabbit/Scirocco outer end.
It's nice to have new complete assemblies, for that kind of money you get nice new adjusters and new inner bushings to boot.

The typ 81/85 assembly does not have the funky bend in it and works just as well, Worldpac didn't have any at that time so I grabbed what they had on the shelf.

Hope this helps.

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83 80 q - Euro 2-door!!
85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
86 4000 quattro with 59,000km on the clock
86 5000CD quattro avant, all original
93 90q - 2.5TDI, 6-speed
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Might have to get the brand new black set in there.. not the end of the world.



Where is that avail?

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Might have to get the brand new black set in there.. not the end of the world.



Where is that avail?


Audi. Just sit down before you ask them for a price.. ;)
I picked up couple of sets when they were on a fire sale couple of years back.

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Looks great Martin.... Cant wait for the end result...

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So now I am at a first crossroad... shall I stick with analog dash or go digidash?
I like the unique factor for the digi, it's so 80s, but at the same time most people prefer the analog (Scottish plonkers included ;)

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I say sel the Digi and buy more cool stuff lol... I like the Analog... When James gets the dashes sorted I plan on going analog as well.....

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I thought about it for awhile and in the end gave away my two digidashes and decided to go analog. I'm just not convinced that the digital can keep up with a fast revving 20vt. That and splicing wires to make things work didn't sound like fun. I still think that it would be a nice touch in a moderately modded 20vt DD just not mine.

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Well, that's the thing, my SQ will be the rally monster with Bufkin dash etc. But this is going to be a daily summer car.

I have a complete RR digi harness (new) and all the components ready to go.
I am not worried bout the digi not keeping up, I rarely look at the the tacho anyway, keep it in gear till it stops pulling or the rev limiter kicks in.. ;)

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If you have the harness all ready and it's just going to be a ~300hp DD, then I'd say go for it. They are unique and like you say so 80's. What color digi?

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What does the rev counter go up to?

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That digi goes up to usual I5 redline of 6500rpm at which point the entire rev counter starts to flash.
I used to have it in my 3B '85 Ur-q which originally came with a green unit.

I have both the green Euro and Orange US version. Now, which version shall I use?
Green digi has a neat feature of having the trip computer readout in German and has a boost gauge built in.. not good over 1 bar of boost though.. :(

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6500? I would go analog. How high does it go period? My analog 5kq tach give up at 7800rpm and it drives me nuts..

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Both orange and green have 7000rpm as the end of the scale.
Funny because the RR (same as 3B) redlines at 7500.

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83 80 q - Euro 2-door!!
85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
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ralleyquattro wrote:
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Might have to get the brand new black set in there.. not the end of the world.



Where is that avail?


Audi. Just sit down before you ask them for a price.. ;)
I picked up couple of sets when they were on a fire sale couple of years back.



Ah....so you have a spare then eh? :lol:

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ralleyquattro wrote:
So now I am at a first crossroad... shall I stick with analog dash or go digidash?
I like the unique factor for the digi, it's so 80s, but at the same time most people prefer the analog (Scottish plonkers included ;)

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Analog :bump: :slap: the Scottish plonker has spoken.........

Looks great Martin. We're going to be twins when this is
all said and done.

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Well... both the '84s and the Sports, right? ;)

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85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
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