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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:35 am |
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Sorry I have been away from the forum for a while...I promise to keep more up to date with progress from now on...I have tapatalk on my phone so it's easy to check at work now But to the car...unfortunately I blew the motor on the dyno last year...the motor was stock with only a gasket and head studs...it made 396 whp and 369 wtq before it went...so I have started ordering the parts to rebuild and some goodies have come in... JE pistons fully coated 9:1  IE brand new rods...really nice  
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:39 am |
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Also..I have a precision 6262 ball bearing turbo with a T4 .68 hotside...I plan on revving to about 8k...motor will be a 2.9...and really agressive cams...do you think I should go to the T4 .82 hotside or will I be ok with the .68?
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death 4kqt
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:24 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:19 am Posts: 6679 Location: sideways into a snowbank, VT
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big vr6 + big hotside= big smile!
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RSCoupe
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:00 pm |
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loxxrider wrote: I think you should go .82. That .68 is going to choke you in the long run. .82 minimum.
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Rocket SLC
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:11 pm |
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Yeah, for that power level you will be happy with the .82. Who coated the pistons?
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JonathanL
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:39 pm |
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I have to say the paint and body work are stunning, care to tell whats involved with shaving the trim and/or where you took it?
Thanks,
Jon
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:21 pm |
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Rocket SLC wrote: Yeah, for that power level you will be happy with the .82. Who coated the pistons? I got them from IE...not sure if they are the ones coating them or if it comes from JE like that JonathanL wrote: I have to say the paint and body work are stunning, care to tell whats involved with shaving the trim and/or where you took it?
Thanks,
Jon It was a lot of work...he used a lot of 1 min plastic repair...AMS Autowerks in Linden, NJ Now here is another question...should I stick with the 6262 or go with something bigger and better...such as a 6765...I am not a big fan of a lot of lag, but I would like to make some good hp...just to keep in mind, I will have horrible low end power because of the cams but it will be amazing up top
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:05 pm |
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Going with either 284 or 288
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:03 pm |
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SonaxEvo2 wrote: Also..I have a precision 6262 ball bearing turbo with a T4 .68 hotside...I plan on revving to about 8k...motor will be a 2.9...and really agressive cams...do you think I should go to the T4 .82 hotside or will I be ok with the .68? i think i would be good with the T4 .68 man its about the same size as a t3 .82 housing, and that is perfect for a vr, the .82 will work also but little more lag, but i doubt u would notice the 68 choking, try them both and see what kind of power differences u get out of them, and 288's will do work also, just make sure u got some major head work and check ur valve clearances and make sure u let the lifters bleed down for a little while before u crank it or it wont be pretty
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:54 pm |
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dabeetereater wrote: SonaxEvo2 wrote: Also..I have a precision 6262 ball bearing turbo with a T4 .68 hotside...I plan on revving to about 8k...motor will be a 2.9...and really agressive cams...do you think I should go to the T4 .82 hotside or will I be ok with the .68? i think i would be good with the T4 .68 man its about the same size as a t3 .82 housing, and that is perfect for a vr, the .82 will work also but little more lag, but i doubt u would notice the 68 choking, try them both and see what kind of power differences u get out of them, and 288's will do work also, just make sure u got some major head work and check ur valve clearances and make sure u let the lifters bleed down for a little while before u crank it or it wont be pretty Awesome, thanks for the help!!! Just to see what u think...I can sell my 6262 for a good price, it it worth getting the 6765? And what would be a good hotside for that turbo
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dabeetereater
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:03 pm |
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personally i would just get like a holset hx52 but im cheap lol casue u can get them for less than 300 bucks, but id stick with the same hot side on the 67mm and i think u would be good, gonna need to keep it in the efficiency range cause a vr is not gonna flow up top anyways, and i bet it will hit full boost by 4500 ish,
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:13 am |
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Well I have finally got all my engine rebuild parts in and I have sent out the motor to the machine shop...hopefully it won't take to long because I am eager to get this thing on the road again...
Just one quick question...I have searched about the 01e swap but all the results I find are for coupes...anyone know what needs to be done to fit it in a B4...thanks in advance and once I get the motor back I will post up pics
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:51 am |
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SonaxEvo2 wrote: Well I have finally got all my engine rebuild parts in and I have sent out the motor to the machine shop...hopefully it won't take to long because I am eager to get this thing on the road again...
Just one quick question...I have searched about the 01e swap but all the results I find are for coupes...anyone know what needs to be done to fit it in a B4...thanks in advance and once I get the motor back I will post up pics Basically, theh b4 is the chassis the rs2 is based off of. The subframe is the same as the rs2, so mounts from that car will work on your car. The rear diff is 3.89, so you will either need to find an uber rare over here tdi box, or swap rear ends. The later is easier. The b5 s4 rear diff should fit without any modification, and then you just need to get the driveshaft from the same said vehicle IIRC. There is an guy on audizine that parts out s4s all the time, and I want to say they charge around 250 for the rear diff and 125 for the drive shaft. I'll try and dig up the link to the guy for you. Good luck!
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:14 am |
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Isn't the 2.7T gearbox from the A6 Allroad 3.89?
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:23 am |
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nah its even higher than 4.11
buddy has a chipped 2.7tt allroad and 1st gear is almost unusable
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:59 am |
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Yeah...I have a 2000 s4 trans, dif, driveshaft, And front and rear axles...I am just not optimistic about the driveshaft and axles working...as far as mounts go, I was just thinking about custom mounting...I figure that finding rs2 parts will be extremely hard
Do you guys think I need to get custom axles made?
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ShavedQuattro
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Post subject: Re: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:30 am |
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If you have the s4 stuff there, it should be pretty easy. If the axles do not fit up front, then you can do what the b3 and b4 guys do, and just use either rs2 axles, or use 100mm cups from an older 016 transmission with your existing axles. The 01a you have in there now just differs in length, not width. Big power will eventually distroy the inner CV on your current axles, but you could do that as it comes up.
Make sure you grab the linkage from the b5 s4 as well. A simple cut flip and weld makes that go into the b3 and b4 chassis really easily.
Remember, the b4 is the hybrid of the b3 and b5. THe B4 has a b5 rear end with a b3 front end.
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:06 am |
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ShavedQuattro wrote: If you have the s4 stuff there, it should be pretty easy. If the axles do not fit up front, then you can do what the b3 and b4 guys do, and just use either rs2 axles, or use 100mm cups from an older 016 transmission with your existing axles. The 01a you have in there now just differs in length, not width. Big power will eventually distroy the inner CV on your current axles, but you could do that as it comes up.
Make sure you grab the linkage from the b5 s4 as well. A simple cut flip and weld makes that go into the b3 and b4 chassis really easily.
Remember, the b4 is the hybrid of the b3 and b5. THe B4 has a b5 rear end with a b3 front end. Awesome...thanks for the detailed write-up
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:32 pm |
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In my b3 i used all b5s4 stuff and a JHM shifter and I actually needed to to some shifter tunnel clearanceing to get reverse and fifth to both work properly. Just a heads up.
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:59 am |
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zerb wrote: In my b3 i used all b5s4 stuff and a JHM shifter and I actually needed to to some shifter tunnel clearanceing to get reverse and fifth to both work properly. Just a heads up. When you say you used all b5s4 stuff, what did that include?
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SonaxEvo2
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Post subject: My Audi 90 (B4) VR6 Turbo build Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:17 am |
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Well the block and crank is back from the machine shop...freshly bored and cleaned up...should be getting the head back soon too....can't wait, super excited!! 
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