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This is my new to me 85 URQ I recently purchased from a friend. He was very kind to store the car over the winter at his facility till the weather was more conducive for driving it the 90 minutes to my shop. Great guy, thanks again for a great car.

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So here is what I know about the car according to the previous owner:

"One of the best examples of the classic ur quattro available. Very rare Canadian car. Original Tornado Red paint with black leather interior. 1 of only 17 quattros imported to Canada in 1985! Desirable and rare non-sunroof version. 167,000 KM. Clear Michigan title. Retains original metric instruments - I did not convert anything when I imported this car to the USA.

Over the course of the past 3 years, this car has been totally sorted out by Phil at Auto Europe in Birmingham. Phil was an Audi mechanic back when these cars were brand new. I basically gave him permission to check and correct anything that needed attention. The car was great when I bought it, but it's even better now! New hard fuel lines, clutch and slave cylinders, hydraulic bomb, alternator, starter, water pump, timing belt. tires, battery, master cylinder, rear differential bushing, center driveshaft bearing, etc., etc. The car has a modified head and a modified ECU to allow use of the Euro wastegate spring. A joy to drive. This must be what it was like to drive one of these cars brand new. No rattles or squeaks. Strong performer."


Certainly couldn't take issue with any of that and I've known the PO for a few years as a customer at my shop and when I worked at Auto Europe. I was just starting to think about buying a classic when this showed up. I thought I might import an Opel Manta from Europe. That's the car I had when I moved to the US around 20 years ago. I thought it was time to get one back. But then I saw this and it was obvious this was the car I should have. I grew up watching Group B rally in the forests in England and the quattro has always been my favorite Group B monster. Just the noise alone is enough to get my heart racing. Indeed, as I like to tell people, this car is why I now own a motorsports business and race RallyCross, autocross etc. Plus, it would be good that the car stay in Michigan where Curt could keep an eye on it.

I’ve had the car here for a couple of months now and driven it a number of times. My goals for the car are to keep it in its original condition while fixing some of its issues and not-quite-original features. My list is already long but does not reflect the condition of the car but my mental condition of list making and nit-picking. Here are the highlights of what needs attention IMHO:

Oil change DONE
Passenger door lock inoperative FIXED
Driver’s window seal loose
Handbrake boot fits poorly
Fuel leak smell FIXED
Passenger window sticks at 2” drop FIXED
Pass seat adjuster loose
Vent broken center dash REPLACED
Passenger door pocket coming away FIXED
Rear diff damp-reseal
Right rear wheel creaks
Wipers slow
Gearbox play, mounts?
Rust spots, leading edge of hood, and fender in engine bay TREATED
Wrong headlights
A/C removed, engine bay, replace
Trunk carpet screws missing
Engine under tray missing right side REPLACED
Radio too new and blingy
Upper front strut mounts loose
Rear brake lines rusty
Front ball joints
Lower control arm bushings iffy
Left front cv boot getting brittle REPLACED
Volts-volt and oil temp meters behave oddly
Door carpet coming away FIXED
Non-original steering wheel REPLACED
Trunk strut inoperative. REPLACED
Key fob light
Exhaust crooked
Jack missing
Speaker cover loose FIXED
Non-original speakers

EDIT-keep reading for details of these fixes and others.

I might need help with some of these. Prepare yourselves for many questions. Obviously some of these are urgent and necessary, others trivial nit-picking but you can’t beat having a list. I’m sure it will grow rather than shrink even if I do check some off.

I still find it immensely ironic that, considering that I’m so into rally, have a rally related business and love to drive sideways that I bought a car that I can neither drive in the snow or on the dirt. I guess I’ll have to limit my fun to wet roundabouts, the three or four that exist in SE Michigan. I may do the odd autocross in it or maybe a track day. Do they have track days for classics? I already took it round Waterford Hills track at the recent track day but only during the parade laps at lunchtime. Twas quite fun. Probably, this is what I’ll do most with the car. Just take it to local motorsport events and shows so people can enjoy seeing it. I am going to slap some BRAID wheels on it and a discreet windshield banner in white “BRAIDUSA.com” though as it has to earn it’s keep somehow.

These are the wheels that are on the boat right now. What do you think?

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I chose them because they are very reminiscent of the works wheels used on the S1, at least in my opinion. I ordered them in the same specs as the originals. I’ll use the Kumho 225/50-15 tires that came on the OE Ronals. Curt also gave me a set of BFG 215/50-15 which was the OE size but I’m not sure what to do with those yet.

Hopefully I’ll remember to update this page with news of the cars development and outings. Meanwhile, if you have any questions or suggestions let me know. I’m all ears.

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that last set of rims are very nice, anymore info on them?

nice car and worth keeping hold of it, was quite surprised to see the nardi wheel on it. If you get rid of it give me a shout and i'll source you a original steering wheel/cash to replace as easier to source in the uk.


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Well the wheels finally came in and I immediately slapped some tires on them and bolted them on the car. What do you think?

Imagenewbraidsbig by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

Then I took it out to the lake for Memorial Day.
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In case you're curious the wheels are BRAID Serie 6 R 3 piece, 15x8 with 225/50-15 Kumho tires.

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Welcome,

That was my friends car. Robert Gross used to own it.

Bloody nice car

I can put you in touch with him if you want to know any details. He owned it for many,many years.

cheers,

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Acidburn wrote:
that last set of rims are very nice, anymore info on them?

nice car and worth keeping hold of it, was quite surprised to see the nardi wheel on it. If you get rid of it give me a shout and i'll source you a original steering wheel/cash to replace as easier to source in the uk.


Do you mean these?

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They are Speedlines I believe. I think they are the ones the factory ran on the S1.

if you mean these

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You can find more info at http://www.braidusa.com

I think I'll keep the wheel on it for now but it would still be nice to have an original as a back up.

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Highlander wrote:
Welcome,

That was my friends car. Robert Gross used to own it.

Bloody nice car

cheers,

Craig Cook


U R right my friend. I am going to be bringing it over to Toronto soon as Robert still has some parts for it and would like to see it again.

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Astounding looking car. Congratulations.


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U R right my friend. I am going to be bringing it over to Toronto soon as Robert still has some parts for it and would like to see it again.


Let us know when, maybe we can organise a get together, or if you can make it first Thursday of the month, that's the ngiht we have our club meetings.
Just a thought.

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ralleyquattro wrote:
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U R right my friend. I am going to be bringing it over to Toronto soon as Robert still has some parts for it and would like to see it again.


Let us know when, maybe we can organise a get together, or if you can make it first Thursday of the month, that's the ngiht we have our club meetings.
Just a thought.

Cheers


That's a great idea. I'll work on it.

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Welcome to MG!! Now that's the kind of car that belongs here and would look nice in anyones garage. Very nice looking car that I look forward to keeping up with. Good luck!!

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Beautiful URQ, i need to find a later model dash because they just look soooooooooooooooooooooooo much better.



if u want to get rid of the flat h1/h4's lemme know, just bought a set but they were smashed during shipping.

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Awesome looking car. Very nice - welcome -

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Holy S, beautiful car.

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Thanks guys. I'm very happy with it as you can imagine.

Mentosman42, I'll probably keep the current lights for a while but would love to have the originals one day.

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Astounding looking car. Congratulations.


Welcome aboard!

Sean, I knew you'd like this one ;o]

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Welcome to the elite group of 1985 UrQ owners. I purchased mine from a friend of 20 years last summer. I'm trying to sort out a few things on it before taking it to NH for the climb to the clouds. You should certainly consider that event if you're able. There are about 17ish (iirc) UrQ heading out there at the end of this month.

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Dubbinchris wrote:
Welcome to the elite group of 1985 UrQ owners. I purchased mine from a friend of 20 years last summer. I'm trying to sort out a few things on it before taking it to NH for the climb to the clouds. You should certainly consider that event if you're able. There are about 17ish (iirc) UrQ heading out there at the end of this month.

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Thanks Chris. I'd love to go but can't make it. Curt Egerer and Tim Maskus are both prodding me to go but it's not going to happen I'm afraid. :(

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Thats a shame you can't go, it's going to be such a unique once in a lifetime event IMO. I know I can barely squeeze this into my budget, but I said what the hell. Anyway you have mass a beautiful purchase. I hope to see it I in person someday.

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Thats a shame you can't go, it's going to be such a unique once in a lifetime event IMO. I know I can barely squeeze this into my budget, but I said what the hell. Anyway you have mass a beautiful purchase. I hope to see it I in person someday.


Someday soon perhaps. You're only in Columbus and I have dealers down there, or trying to have.

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I love the plate, Paul!

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I love the plate, Paul!


You're on here too! is there a forum you're not on. :-)

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REALLY nice car... I wish it was in my garage. Best of luck and take care of it. :)

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I love the plate, Paul!


You're on here too! is there a forum you're not on. :-)


Hey, this is the forum where I found my VW. :)

There's a forum I'm not on: the Group B owners forum. I mainly just wanted to join to try to glean even more technical data about my favorite Group B cars, but you have to own a Group B street or replica model and my RX-7 isn't Group B enough (yet). My guess, it doesn't have enough TIM stickers on it :)

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Well....if you're not gonna make Mt. Washington..... What are you doing in October? :-D

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Thats a shame you can't go, it's going to be such a unique once in a lifetime event IMO. I know I can barely squeeze this into my budget, but I said what the hell. Anyway you have mass a beautiful purchase. I hope to see it I in person someday.


Someday soon perhaps. You're only in Columbus and I have dealers down there, or trying to have.



Well there's 4 UrQ's here in the Columbus area so you'd be in good company. Actually 3 of us were all toether today. On the first Sat of every month a growing group of old school Audi fans gather for lunch. Keep that in mind when planning a trip down here. Otherwise get in touch with us here on MG, we're always around.

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