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Rocket SLC
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Post subject: Anyone run open-dump wastegate? Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:50 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:47 pm Posts: 795 Location: NY
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Just wondering if it had been done on a MC1 with stock exhaust manifold, downpipe and wastegate.
What differences did you notice?
Any problems with plumbing?
Thanks!
_________________ Dan 1986 4kq Daily/winter beater 1987 4kvr6tq Project / track car Looking for a B5 S4
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death 4kqt
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:14 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:19 am Posts: 5043 Location: sideways into a snowbank, VT
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Quote: not really great sounding on a 10 valve engine
i recently heard a 10vt 90 with open wastegate and i really didnt like the sound of it. Under boost it sounded more like a tractor and not even a very nice tractor  just my opinion
_________________ Dana
-4kq efi 10vt<- sold
-99.5 f250 6-speed superduty diesel
-1990 90q 20v: snow tires and manual climate control FTW!
-1990 90q 20v: 11.7 @124.5 with the 'ghetto' 20vt
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Jonathan
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:03 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:14 pm Posts: 5441 Location: Way to the left...side of the timeline
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Has anybody heard how it sounds on a 20VT I5? I'd like to run an open dump on my car, but I don't want it to sound like ass.
_________________ Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the far more complicated one, And that has made all the difference.
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123quattro
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:15 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:17 pm Posts: 1405 Location: Farmington Hills, MI
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A 20v doesn't' sound much different than a 10v. I like a completely open exhaust, but not just the wastegate.
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VWAP Swap
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:26 am |
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:29 pm Posts: 409 Location: Burlington, VT
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Yeah, I'm with Dana and Myke. Actually my car is the one that Dana heard recently as I just got it going, and I was planning on running the open dump tube on the wastegate. But it's definitely a bit loud and obnoxious under boost, but maybe I'm just getting old. Anyway, I personally don;t like it, and plan on plumbing it back into the exhaust before the car goes on the street.
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Justin517
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:30 am |
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I'm going to!
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pac1085
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:53 am |
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I have an open dump on my 1.8t 20v, I know its not the same car but it still sounds like total ass!
_________________ -97 A4 1.8TQM - Holset HX35/40, MS2/Extra 2.0b19
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Jonathan
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:17 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:14 pm Posts: 5441 Location: Way to the left...side of the timeline
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Hmm... well, I am thinking that the WG will be mostly shut under boost. I am going with either a big-housing GT35R or a 35/40.
Then again, if the WG is going to be mostly shut, what is the advantage of dumping? I guess nothing.
_________________ Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the far more complicated one, And that has made all the difference.
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Matt
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:28 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:55 am Posts: 1782 Location: Portland
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I have a dump tube on my 10vt and it is getting plumbed back in to the exhaust soon!
_________________ 1991 200 20v Garrett turbo mods
1994 Montero SR 3.5 lifted 33's
1998 Volvo S70 5spd NA
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subvertdesign
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:28 pm |
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You could always stick a mini muffler on the WG dump like they did on the 930's and such. I always thought it was pretty funny, here was this tiny little muffler hanging off the WG dump pipe. Looked like a can of beans. I think at that point you're seeing diminshing returns- unless you have a Porsche and no room for an exhaust system as it is.
_________________ -Jared
My 83 URQ 20v Rebuild
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Jonathan
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:51 pm |
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Well, room for exhaust (room for anything) will be at a premium in my car. In case you haven't seen my project thread, this is an Audi Fox Quattro I5 20VT project.
Sounds like I need to plumb the wastegate into the exhaust and forget about it.
_________________ Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the far more complicated one, And that has made all the difference.
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hgordon
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:01 pm |
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Jonathan wrote: Hmm... well, I am thinking that the WG will be mostly shut under boost. I am going with either a big-housing GT35R or a 35/40.
Then again, if the WG is going to be mostly shut, what is the advantage of dumping? I guess nothing.
The wastegate will open as soon as you hit your target boost, I had one on my 1.8t, and I grew to hate it. Way too loud.
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vagrant_mugen
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:05 pm |
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i thinkim gonna make a seperate wastegate exhaust, somthing that will take it 1/2 way back on the chassis and then dump it under the car. or maybe all the way to the back.
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90_Koop
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:44 pm |
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That URQ sounded nice until all of a sudden it DIDN'T. Then it sounded like shit.
_________________ Dave '90 CQ Pearl on Grey (Getting an AAN transplant) '91 90 20V Quattro (034 Stage 1 WIP Tornado Red) '79 Porsche 928 (Gone but not forgotten) Gotta luv those expensive rare German cars, since no one else will!!! Adrenaline anyone?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:15 pm |
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I think it sounds good, i'll be running my 10vt open and get videos. I'm sure i'll eventually get sick of it, but i have a factory exhaust and i want to open it up a little for boost (by just dumping the wastegate) without it being obnoxious on the highway, just obnoxious when i floor it.
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uti_s4
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:15 am |
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i think that the bold statements of the 20v sounding like ass with open down pipe is a matter of preferance. i may be a young gun punk ass that likes stuff loud but i dont think it fare to say it sounds like ass. you can hear the turbo in all its glory, and the nice a clean combusted material making its way out of the motor. oh i love it, call me crazy i dont care.
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MB4kq
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:29 am |
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Im with ya there uti
I've always loved forced inducton whine
I'm sure I would love it daily too!!
sssssSSSSSS!!!--Ppsshshhhh!!! (Boost and blow off sound)
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nuugen
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:38 pm |
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It is fun in the beginning, scaring the bejesus out of little kids and old people, but it gets really old after a while..I won't go back to open dump again..My grey car is plenty loud with twin 2.25 straight pipes from the turbo back to the rear bumper, the sound has been compared to an S1 albeit not THAT loud..The problem is that all hell breaks loose and your concentration on important things such as the road, other people, engine speed, detrimental noises, is basically tossed out the window with the instant blast of open exhaust, unlike straight pipes which are loud throughout the whole range, and you still hear the turbo spool..
_________________ 91 200 tq Titan 91 200tq Pearl 86 Scirocco, 2.8 VR6 "German Muscle" 90 CQ where does all the traction come from? 93 //S4 "Kermit" donor 93 EuroVan PRTS HLR "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
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