93 90 cs quattro bad oil pump

I was under the impression that these older Audis had an oil pump that was driven by the crank shaft.

bad oil pump usually means the oil pump stopped working and most likely needs a new engine. no oil pressure= ruined crank, ruined rods, ruined cams, ect.

I take it you are looking at this....

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3936479989.html

How did you know? Ya, if I can get it cheap enough, and it doesn't cost too much to fix.

Just happened to see it up on CL earlier. May or may not be the oil pump. Supposedly the oil reading was low so they took it in for an oil change and the place they took it said it was the pump. They also mentioned that it was smoking out the exhaust. My guess is it's actually valve seals or something...

Ya, I have been asking a bunch of questions. He said it sounded like it was running real rough, and then died on him. And I think he said it had the oil warning was on. I just don't know much about these engines. I am very familiar with the later v6, in the b5's, but not the early ones.

He was also saying that the oil pump wasn't priming. I don't know how they determined this.....

As I said... I'm pretty sure the oil pump is driven off the crankshaft so I don't know how it couldn't be "priming". I'm guessing they ran it low of oil and burnt some valves and seals. Hence they saw smoke going through the exhaust. Or the headgasket is blown...

Ok, thanks for the info guys. Sounds like it might be more of a pain than it is worth......

I had to replace the engine on mine which was pretty cheap and easy really. The AAH engines can be had for a couple hundred bucks and the parts are cheap. If the guy knows that the engine is toast $400 or $500 could be well worth it

You really are an enabler aren't you.

Saw that one too...I think it was for sale prior to the oil problem too.
I would assume the engine is toast and not even bother with swapping the pump. Or if you felt lucky, check the bearings and cam lobes and if they look good just do the pump and hope for the best.

Call Cambell Nelson auto wreaking up in Arlington. They pretty much only have Audi and VW parts. Great source for random stuff.

I'm sure they would even have a full engine that you could buy and swap.

vwtechscott said:

You really are an enabler aren't you.

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This same logic had me buy the shittiest 94 Cabriolet ever, fix the engine and then realize the trans was toast too. It's since been scrapped. I actually pulled a bunch of engine stuff before I scrapped it so ill have some cheap parts if you end up needing them

rogermoz said:

Call Cambell Nelson auto wreaking up in Arlington. They pretty much only have Audi and VW parts. Great source for random stuff.

I'm sure they would even have a full engine that you could buy and swap.

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They probably would charge more than the car. They're even more outrageous with pricing than Absolute German.
There's two 93 B4's at Portland Pick-n-Pull, probably both with motors.

OOOOGT said:

rogermoz said:

Call Cambell Nelson auto wreaking up in Arlington. They pretty much only have Audi and VW parts. Great source for random stuff.

I'm sure they would even have a full engine that you could buy and swap.

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They probably would charge more than the car. They're even more outrageous with pricing than Absolute German.
There's two 93 B4's at Portland Pick-n-Pull, probably both with motors.

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Plus you can plug and play an AFC from a newer 90, a 100, early A6 or B5 A4. The exhaust manifolds are different but interchangeable with what will come with the AAH engine.
Just stay away from an automatic trans car so you don't have to grind out the bushing in the end of the crankshaft to make it fit a flywheel instead of flexplate.

OOOOGT said:

rogermoz said:

Call Cambell Nelson auto wreaking up in Arlington. They pretty much only have Audi and VW parts. Great source for random stuff.

I'm sure they would even have a full engine that you could buy and swap.

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They probably would charge more than the car. They're even more outrageous with pricing than Absolute German.
There's two 93 B4's at Portland Pick-n-Pull, probably both with motors.

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I've gotten good quotes from them in the past. Absolute German blows... Everytime I've gone there things are way over priced and they say they'll have it ready and it's still on a car when I get there....

Well against my better judgement (thanks to all the enablers out there egging me on), I bought said car with "bad oil pump". Got it towed back to the shop, did a compression check, and there is nothing on like 4 cylinders, and barely anything on two. Just for shits and grins, checked the timing belt, and sure as shit it isn't moving with the crank. Gave up on it for the afternoon.

On the plus side, the car is in pretty good condition. The body is real straight, and other than the awesome gold accents, and the hood having tons of rock chips, it looks pretty good. The interior is really nice too, other than the fact that the guy was a smoker.

Thanks for talking me in to it guys! Hopefully i'll get it running and be able to enjoy it some day, because it is a pretty nice car......