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Our BRAID wheels came in from Europe. We love 'em.

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Been watching this build since the beginning and I'm really enjoying it! Also... Good lord those are nice!


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I've never really cared for the liveries that use the flare line as a color border. I think it makes the flares disappear visually. But that's just personal preference. Car is looking awesome and making great progress!

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Maybe try bringing the line down to the bumper line
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Aren't they? Every time I look at them I go weak at the knees.

Getting tires mounted on them today so look for some pictures of them bolted to every Audi I can lay my hands on.


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Our BRAID wheels came in from Europe. We love 'em.

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Been watching this build since the beginning and I'm really enjoying it! Also... Good lord those are nice!

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Use Urs struts, WAY stronger. Wish I had been following closer.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:44 am 
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Scattered progress since our last update but progress non-the-less.

We started to attack the drive shaft last week. The CV joints seem a bit stiff so we are going to clean them out and see if we can save them. If not we think we can replace them. The universal joint in the center seems fine but we might have to destroy it removing the center support bearing which is also fine but whose rubber bushing is decidedly squishy.

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We also started refurbishing the fuel tanks. Initial inspection revealed only surface rust so we cleaned it out with some dish washer detergent.

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We had a visit from the guys who run DIYAUTO.com https://www.diyauto.com/ last week, Nick and Steve Balistreri. DIYAUTO.com’s goal is to collate all the cool information in the various forum build threads on the web so the information is easy to search and the knowledge is not lost to us auto enthusiasts. We are proud they have both our quattro builds and our 911 build on their site.

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We continued to dismantle parts that are being sent out for refinishing. This week it was the turn of the suspension components. These did not want to come apart and the students learnt a great deal about persistence and the use of heat wrenches.

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We’re not even sure we can get replacement ball joints and bushings for this stuff and may have to fabricate our own.



We optimistically mocked up the rear calipers again to see if we can make them work. Both the handbrake cable and the brake fluid line want to go through the rear axles but as we intend using a hydraulic handbrake we wanted to see if we could make a banjo fitting attach. Think not:

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Next update we hope to share some news about the shell. Stay tuned.

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Been working on a few things but nothing too exciting. we finally found some proper UR quattro rear brake calipers

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You can see how the handbrake cable and brake line come in from the back instead of the side therefor avoiding the axle.

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Amanda made some more incremental progress on the model. She says she's going to paint the stripes next.

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Then we started on resealing the rear differential.

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No wear groove on the input flange :)

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Rear diff is back together with new seals. Now we need to decide what color to paint it.

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Amanda has started painting stripes on the model.

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We borrowed an OE refinished rear caliper and decided this is the way to go with ours.

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In anticipation of panels showing up Thompson Racing Fabrication took the car out of storage and delivered it to Cherry Classic Cars. We must admit it's nice to get re-acquainted.

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Now we just need our wide body kit.


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Panels did indeed show up from Europe from Cool Wheels in Latvia. Cherry Classic Cars wasted no time in offering them up to the body. As expected with composite reproduction panels it's going to take quite a bit if fettling to get a good fit.

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They also set about fixing the rust on the shell and other minor repairs.

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Before applying primer.

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The shell is still at the body shop: Cherry Classic Cars in Michigan but we recently went to visit it and to make some decisions about how to put it together.

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We also found a kevlar composite trunk lid in Canada

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and received some vintage gauges and switches from another quattro aficionado.

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More wide body progress on the rally build. Front and rear fenders are being wrestled into place by the guys at Cherry Classic Cars:

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Starting to look like a car again.




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Looks like more than just a car. :)
Are you going to coat the underbody & fenderwells with anything when you're done?

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Where did you find that boost gauge? is it 60mm? I need one for my dash.

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Quick photo update of progress on the wide body build by Cherry Classic Cars.

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Awesome !
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The rally Quattro is still up north at Cherry Classic Cars but it's coming along nicely. We might get it back as early as this month! Meanwhile here are some more updates.

A few weeks ago we were summoned up to CCC to help figure out how to deal with this poor bumper fitment issue:

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Should the bumper go behind the quarter panel or should it butt up and why is the quarter panel so far out or the bumper so not wide enough? We feel we have a solution. More later.

While we were up there we discovered that our car has manual, wind up windows! These must have been changed by a previous owner as no Quattros had these from the factory. Gues we don't have to find a spot for the window switches now but, because of the cage, we may only be able to wind down the windows with the doors open!

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While we away in the frozen north our fab guy got a little creative with our engine. As a result we now have the world's only five cyclinder, turbo charged shopping cart!

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The catalyst for this creativity was the Quattro Squad separating the transmission and giving it a good clean in preparation for either a rebuild or, hopefully, just a reseal.

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We also pulled the seats down from the parts shelf and cleaned them up in preparation for selling them. Not so much to generate funds but to create some space. They cleaned up very nicely and are in excellent shape. No tears at all; just a little wear on the driver's seat. I think they would restore quite well but we want to sell them as they are rather than cover things up. We think we could reasonably ask $1000 for them.

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Subscribe for more updates soon and to see if the car makes it back here this month.


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Wow never seen one with cRank windows. Cool.

It’s nice to see some of the body work and how they get those panels on.
It seems any Audi I have sitting around has a seam back there under reflector. I wonder if they could get it to match the factory seam.

On the outer rear quarter panel where it meets the bumper I always thought that was supposed to be seamed together so it’s one solid piece but looks like two.
I wonder if they could notch it a little and make the quarter panel match the fit of the bumper?
Look forward to seeing the completed piece

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Well, the seats are sold. That has freed up some space on the parts shelf at least.

The shell is still up north at Cherry Classic Cars but we are expecting the call any day now. It's basically just waiting for the primer to dry then it will be ready to drag back down state and start bolting parts on. It was decided to do this in primer as there is probably quite a bit of cutting and grinding and welding to still be done as we basically do not know what we are doing. Once we have it essentially together we'll strip it down again for paint. It's going to look grand in the works shop regardless and will inspire us to refurbish all the dirty parts we have been ignoring. It may even get it's very own space for the build up. Here are some pictures as it sits now courtesy of Scott at Cherry Classic Cars.


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Next time you see it it might be in a trailer.



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QUATTRO RALLY HOMECOMING

It was a big day last Saturday. We dragged the car home from Cherry Classic Cars where it has lived for the last twelve months. It was almost 15 months to the day that we dragged it up there with its first layover being at Thompson Racing Fabrication where it received its ARA legal cage and other modifications.

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Finally home. We think this is where we'll build it; in the showroom!

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So yes, the car is in primer. This is because we still have quite a bit of cutting, welding and grinding to do. The front bumper bar needs various tabs welding to it and there are lots of brackets and tabs we probably wont use so to protect the shny paint we left it in the can for now. The plan is to almost completely build the car before striping it again and finally painting the shell. This will allow us to make any required modifications as we go and not ruin the paint. As the primer will get dirty easily one rule we are implementing is that nothing gets bolted to the car that is in its final refurbished condition especially anything containing oil. We will see how long that lasts.

There's lots to do and lot's to buy. Mostly an engine. More on that later but for now we are on the quest for one of these 1/18 models that Sunstar just released.


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Brace yourselves for an onslaught of updates.

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Y'all Want a 200 20v ? ....for the motor n bits.

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Y'all Want a 200 20v ? ....for the motor n bits.


Thanks Mike. A couple of weeks ago i would have jumped at one but have now sourced a 20V from Marc Swanson. Should be here in a couple of weeks.

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Looking Fantastic btw !

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Hey guys, awesome progress. Love the wide body. Looks great.

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So we have had the car back a couple of weeks and there has been plenty of buzz though not, seemingly, much progress. That, of course is not the case with much of the action taking place in online shopping carts as we start to buy the parts we will need.

Most importnatly, an engine. We have the 10V that came with the car and that "ran when parked" as they say. But it's only good for 2-300 horspower max and then you have to ditch the CIS injection and spend gobs of money on it, jst to get 300hp. A slightly more modern 20V engine can easily manage 3-400 horsepower apparently with much more availble if you want to go bankrupt. We think 350 hp will be fine for our purposes so have decided to go that route. We have orderd a stock but tested engine from a quattro guru that is coming with a chipped ecu and a few other niceties that should give us a plu and play 300-350 hp. More on that when it gets here.

So what else: well, we started assembling the iconic Group B dash by pulling out all the gauges and switches we had previously purchased. Then went to eGauges.com for the ones we are missing. VDO Vision Black; in Metric when available.

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Before we could order the fuel level gauge we needed to figure out what ohms range the stock sender puts out. The interweb didn't seem to know so we showed it our FLUKE multi-meter. That must hace sacred it because it didn't work. After careful disassembly and cleaning of all the electrical paths we finally determined that it went from 40ohms to 285 ohms so ordered a 33-240 ohm gauge.

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We also test fitted our Sparco seat bracket, both in the car and on one of our Corbeau FIA seats but resisted the temptation to test the both in the car, for now.

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Then, with a little help from some MRF rally tires we installed the rear diff and subframe.

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And yesterday our refurbished rack arrived from Jorgen Automotive so we threw that at the car too.

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Next on the list is to refurbish and install the steering column, pedals and shifter. Me should have the front subframe back from powder coating so don't be surprised to see that on the car too soon.

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