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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:59 am 
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Just when I thought I was finished sanding, here we go again. On the bright side, things are straigther and smoother than ever. One more coat of primer planned after this one. Depending on the condition of the surfacer, I may just reduce the primer and apply it as a sealer (not the kind that club seals).


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NICE. That'll look really good when it's done. I'm painting my car right now as well(95 90q) and it seems like just when you think you're done sanding you see another spot that needs more! My fingers are all cracked up from it lol.

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Nice, I like the white primer. The 2k stuff is too dark.. Yeah man, get a $16 SAS Respirator when dealing with this stuff. I also made myself a fresh air supply system from a $30 shop vac and drainage hose from Home Depot.

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NICE. That'll look really good when it's done. I'm painting my car right now as well(95 90q) and it seems like just when you think you're done sanding you see another spot that needs more! My fingers are all cracked up from it lol.


I really hope it looks good. At his point, I just want to be done with it. I'm starting to feel like crap from all of these products and I've been using dust masks and respirators. The respirators hhave a limited life. I've heard they are effective for 50 hours to a week, and you should return them to a sealed container when you aren't using them, because they are activated by air and can 'wear out' even when they aren't in use. This is news to me and I've been using the same respirator since this whole thing began.

Thankfully, Mr.Audifreak got me looking at respirators last night and I was able to find some helpful info. This morning I stopped at the auto body shop and picked up a new SAS resirator and some sealed goggles. They don't even sell cartridges for the respirators, because they encourage you to buy a new one (this is important stuff). Luckily the respirator is only $20--I've spent over a hundred in the last month on gloves alone.

Donuts, I strongly encourage you to buy some disposible nitrile gloves. They will save your hands and protect your work. I had to do extra work because my panels became contaminated (or remained contaminated). I can't say for sure whether they were soiled by my hands, but you really don't want to take any chances.

I was hoping to finish up with sanding last night, but was worried about my masking of the sunroof and decided to remove it. I think this will reduce the chance of it sticcking after it is painted, it will be much easier to paint the roof as my passes will be shorter, and ultimately, I expect to get a better job.

I mentioned before that my side view mirror was stuck from a previous paint job. Originally, I didn't want to break the mirror so I planned on leaving it on the car for another painting. Last night Iu had a change of heart and decided to get it off, even it meant I would need a new mirror. Surprisingly, it came off in tact--I didn't even strip the screws--although I plan on replacing them.

It's Thanksgiving for us Canucks this weekend and since everyone wants to see the new addition to the family, we are booked solid this weekend for lunches and dinners with family. Nevertheless, I'm going to do my best to get some more work done and hopefully, achieve decent results.

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no way, that kid is 2 months old? kid looks like 6-8 easily.

great work on the paint, i can't wait to get into this stuff haha.

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yeah, he's actually 2.5 months. the lucky troll hair makes him look older.

i wish i never got into this body work, it has consumed me and i can't let it go until its done. Bigger garage, welder, a place to do body work and a designated paint booth and i would consider doing it again. How someone can make money doing this type of work amazes me, and still i am a bit sceptical. My hat's off to the pros. There must be shortcuts that only come with experience--too bad i don't plan on sticking around for that long.

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I am with you 100% and is exactly why my car is just sitting right now. Painting in a garage is a joke, I want nothing to do with body work at the moment. I am going to forgo doing the rest of the car in 2k primer and just use good rattle can. Then I am going to get everything ready including fans, at least 3 of them and wrap the entire garage in plastic, then shoot everything at once and be done with it. Body suits, gloves and fresh air supply on top of the respirator, I don't want to be exposed to any more of this crap.

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I'm on my 2nd wind right now, I got to the the point of just wanting it done and being sick to death of bodywork, now I'm just in robot mode. I agree with Jim, it seems doable but trying to do it without an ideal setup makes it infinitely more difficult. I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I'm using rattle can all the way, so far it's actually come out good with a lot of wet sanding and polishing/buffing. Not sure how long it'll last, probably won't hold up like real piant but we'll see. One advantage is that isn't as much material floating around in the air(also a disadvantage as I can't get the volume I need on larger panels from just the can), but another + is that I can just concentrate on 1 panel at a time.

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I'm on my 2nd wind right now, I got to the the point of just wanting it done and being sick to death of bodywork, now I'm just in robot mode. I agree with Jim, it seems doable but trying to do it without an ideal setup makes it infinitely more difficult. I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I'm using rattle can all the way, so far it's actually come out good with a lot of wet sanding and polishing/buffing. Not sure how long it'll last, probably won't hold up like real piant but we'll see. One advantage is that isn't as much material floating around in the air(also a disadvantage as I can't get the volume I need on larger panels from just the can), but another + is that I can just concentrate on 1 panel at a time.


Rattle cans work, but you will need a lot of them. That's how I painted my Vw and it turned out alright. I'd like to know if it's still holding out.

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Now that the weather is getting nicer, I've started to work on the CQ again. I sprayed another coat of high build before the winter and it left a pitted finish due to supposed trapped solvents. In addition, I have some cracks in the primer. this weekend, I spent hours trying to sand down to a smooth surface and the situation is looking better. Although it will be at least 40 hours before I'm looking at a paintable surface.

One issue that I could use some insight with is my rad fan. It's running all of the time when the car is on (high speed fan). I was thinking the temp switch in the rad itself is either fubared or the wiring from it to the relay. could it be something else?


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Minor update...

Removed rear window glass, moldings, mirrors, and more sanding. I want to remove the hatch, but I have nowhere to put it. I'm thinking about making a stand for it in the trunk--just to raise it away from the roof and rain chanel in order to make painting easier and more effective. Still can't figure out how the rear washer jet comes out or how to drop out the wiper motor. On the inside of the hatch, with the trim removed, there's still metal between me and the said components WTF!? Did they build these things into the hatch like little boats built in bottles?


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I like updates - cuz I never get tired of seeing the pic of lil'peanut lol

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quattro v1.0 wrote:
I like updates - cuz I never get tired of seeing the pic of lil'peanut lol



Haha, yeah lil peanut turned 9 months a couple weeks ago. He's forcing us to ramp up our baby-proofing activities.

My wife has been told this picture should be sensored, because Curious George looks like he's getting a little too friendly.


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Time for another update...

It's too cold to paint.

But, found a guy who might be renting me a booth for a couple of weeks. I've agreed to his terms, but haven't heard back. I'll let you know how it plays out. If this thing stays in my garage unfinished this winter I'm going to lose it.


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booth is a done deal! Starts Saturday.

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awesome! great hands on work. I never could imagine having time to do body work myself...

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Thanks! I made a lot of mistakes; and mistakes mean time and money. Nevertheless, I'm not comepletely put off doing it again. I'm thinking of putting the house up for sale next year, so I can move to a place where I can build a proper garage. These things can be done a lot easier in the right space with the right tools, etc,.

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Almost looks like a car again and I only found one spot on the driver door that needs to be fixed. Where there was a big dent, the body line looks bit wonky, but at least the repair will be isolated to one area. In a few places you can see halos where the epoxy is covering filler. I've read that the epoxy does this and that there's no cause for concern, but it is still iritating. So much for clear over primer.


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Almost looks like a car again and I only found one spot on the driver door that needs to be fixed. Where there was a big dent, the body line looks bit wonky, but at least the repair will be isolated to one area. In a few places you can see halos where the epoxy is covering filler. I've read that the epoxy does this and that there's no cause for concern, but it is still iritating. So much for clear over primer.


when you spray the clear coat, make sure it will go under the rubber around the windows. otherwise it will have a uncovered sharp edge and will be pealing off in a year.


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Almost looks like a car again and I only found one spot on the driver door that needs to be fixed. Where there was a big dent, the body line looks bit wonky, but at least the repair will be isolated to one area. In a few places you can see halos where the epoxy is covering filler. I've read that the epoxy does this and that there's no cause for concern, but it is still iritating. So much for clear over primer.


when you spray the clear coat, make sure it will go under the rubber around the windows. otherwise it will have a uncovered sharp edge and will be pealing off in a year.


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I used the same wire trick around the front and rear windows to create more space between the metal and the seal. Ended up removing the the side glass because of the problem you mentioned. It wasn't pretty, especially after 2 gallons of high-build and 6 months of masking. I use a combination of cardboard, tape and wire now and it works really well.

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Image 360 above is a prime example of what not to do and exactly what you are warning against. All of my seals were stuck to the car.

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I got into the garage yesterday for another late night. The bumpers are ready for priming, all the trim is ready for paint and the car has been wet sanded with 400. It was 4AM by the time I was done cleaning all the sludge off the car, so I'm going to see if I can re-mask tonight and maybe started painting tomorrow or the next day.

I hate wet sanding because its a mess, but it is just so much easier to get a good finish and it makes the paper last a lot longer.


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