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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:26 pm 
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The problem is I could have found one... I just didn't like the price, and from a lot of the reviews I red, they didn't fit well. This one fits perfectly, and should work very well. Unfortunately trying to fix my truck today... Not going that well...

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It should work well. I haven't used it yet. I had to fight the rear brakes on my truck for most of the weekend. All of that was for nothing! The inspection tech flat out lied of the inspection report, and the only thing wrong with my rear brakes was the PS adjuster...

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Dr.Strangelove wrote:
895 837 725B :drool:

Bowden cable?

Nevermind, looked a little closer at the websites. :slap:

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Spent half the weekend in the garage. The old bottom end it out! Took longer than I expected, but that's what I get for doing it by myself. It's been a long time since I took out an engine, and honestly forgot a lot of it. Hell, I couldn't remember how to get the radiator and condenser out, so I worked around it. At least it's out now, so I'll be cleaning a lot of things and getting ready to install the next 7A. I'll be working on getting the radiator and condenser out over this week as well.

As always, here are the pics of it out...
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Oh yeah, as you can see in the hanging pic, I had to make some M11 eye bolts. I did that by cutting down a couple old head bolts and welding on some pieces of tubing.

Also, the scary part of the whole thing was the amount of rust falling off the subframe... I filled a standard household dust pan with what fell off while getting the engine out. I may need to find some better subframes...

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yeah the front subframe on my "new" cq is pretty bad so that will get replaced and binned.

Its a shame parts/cars are so hard to get over here. The one I just got would have been a breaker in the UK, here its a expensive project.

Carpet came out good, I might have to give that a go with mine soon


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I'm going to take the subframes to work and have them walnut shelled. Then I'll make the decision as to what to do. I've seen ones that look much worse, so who knows.

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I'll get around to that on mine, just fitting some of the bits i've got stored. I might end up swapping out my front subframe to be able to fit a six speed.

I spent an hour on it at the weekend and dash is all out, heater box will be removed soon and binned and most of the interiors already out.

While the subframe is out its worth doing bushes etc.


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Crappy pic of the things picked up in CT this weekend.
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I'll go through it tommorow, and take better pics before I start to assemble things again...

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Here is a better look at my haul from the weekend. Lots of good parts I need, and some I don't need but can sell off to find the build.
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Here is a more spread out pic.
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So if you see something you might need, hit me up. I only need one of the BOS heat shields...

So then I decided it was time to clean up the rusty spots under the hood. I started with what looked like the worst area, the PS frame rail. I guess that was a good idea...
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Now I'm kind of stuck. I now need to plate the frame rail, but I also need to tear down down the engine for a general reseal. I kind of lost my mojo now finding this...

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Know that feeling about losing mojo after finding hidden things. At the very least clean that back to see the extent of it, it might not be as bad as you thought.

how'd you end up with that many cruise control actuator things, think thats the most i've seen in one picture. I think the one on my cq is missing the arm/rod that goes to the throttle.


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So that hole isn't nearly as bad as I thought. I opened it up quite a bit, and there is only a very small radius of corrosion around it. I'm going to clean the area, and plate over it. I also looked down into the rail, and the sides and bottom are in good shape.

The cruise vacuum actuators were part of a hoard from a friend of mine. He saved all the ones he pulled from cars that held vacuum. Now they have been turned over to me, as he is trying to clean some stuff out of his shop. I know the one has a rod on it, but not sure if it's the correct one for a 7A. I have lots of good parts here that will soon be posted up for sale. Don't need them taking up space in my garage for long either.

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I had plans to pull the engine apart for a complete reseal this weekend. All my parts showed up today, and I was kind of excited. This was until I pulled out the timing belt rockauto sent me. The belt they sent was 1/2" too wide, and way too long! I even made sure the part# was correct... I filed a claim with them, and should have another belt next week. Hopefully this one shows up correct. Not sure if I want to pull the engine apart without having the timing belt on hand though.

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Unless you think you're going to have trouble getting one that's right, I'd continue work.

The timing belt is one of the last things to go on when you do the engine over, and even could wait until the engine is reinstalled in the car (but the front is still off).

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This is very true. It's just frustrating to check and recheck part#'s and have the wrong part show up.

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Been working on a couple things for this this week. I repaired the outlet flange on the BOS. It was pretty rough, and not much left of it. Luckily it was me steel, so a short time with the mig welder, and it was built up. Then the grinder, file, and stone got out to work to clean it up so it was flat and in line with the original.
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The I was guy able to get the broken bolts out of the lower heat shield. That was a real PITA, and I managed to break 2 easy outs doing it. After figuring out how the 2 got assembled I went about figuring out what the tabs on the top of the upper portion were for. Turns out, I'm sure most of you already know, this gets bolted to the intake manifold. That's a problem, as it turns out there are some distinct differences between the early and late intake manifolds.
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Again, something I'm sure most of you already knew... I'm still pretty green on the 20v, so learning as I go. Looks like I need to do some machining to the late style, so I have somewhere to mount the heat shield.

That's all for now. Going to take a nap, then try to make some headway on resealing the engine.

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I'm unsure what version inlet was on my spare 7a engine I didn't pay that much attention to it tbh, I removed the inlet/sump and I think the only other bits I might keep off that engine is the head and distributor.

Having the engine in the car makes doing the big bolt on the front lower pulley easier.


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You are spot on with that. I'm at a bit of a stand still because I can't get that out...

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I dont know how many miles are on this engine, but the ring ridge is worse than my 350k+ mile MC1. The pic doesn't do it justice, but you can see the difference.
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The bottom end that came with the car has almost no ring ridge, so l be putting the head onto that one. I have ordered a lower gasket kit, so now I will be replacing all the gaskets and seals on the engine.

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Damn rock Auto! Now the belt is "out of stock" so I'll be receiving a refund... :frustrated:

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So here is the belt on the original bottom end.
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I believe that someone installed a new belt, and did it wrong. This is probably what happened to the head. I'll get it out, and check for damage. If nothing is found, I might just use this one.

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So after ordering the gaskets I thought I was going to need, I was convinced I needed to pull the head. To get the head gasket, it was cheaper to buy the whole kit... I then decided I should probably replace the oil filter housing gasket and o-ring. To get the housing gasket, I had to order the bottom end kit! So. Ow I have many gaskets in pair, or hell 10's... Oh well, never hurts to have spares around!
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Glad to see they are still available. I need to get some soon for my 944.

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