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SAYODA's Audi Coupe V8 Build - Runs and Drives!!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:30 am 
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***Yet another V8 swap***

To anyone interested, I'm finally starting a long awaited project.

I've lurked on this site for awhile reading and drooling :D over the successfull swaps.

This is going to be a long build, hopefully i'll have it running by the summer 2009!!!
(Actually took a bit longer, finally driving it in 2018)

Welcome to my Money PIT!

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1990 Audi Coupe (Black) -owned for a couple years
189,XXX miles on it
suspension overhauled when i bougt it
-Bilsteins and B&G's
-RS2 front sway
-custom 80 rear sway
-all rubber mounts
-some poly stuff
face lift
-European cabrio front bumper
-RS2 lights
-cf hood
interior
-corbeau seats
-custom rear tower bar / harness (i'll post some pics)
-URq steering wheel

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Here are some pics


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Rear Strut Tower Bar Pics


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Thats a sweet blacked out ride. Are you going 3.6 or 4.2 for this one, stock or turbo. Just asking how deep the money pit will be. :-D

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Painting the Bar


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Thats a sweet blacked out ride. Are you going 3.6 or 4.2 for this one, stock or turbo. Just asking how deep the money pit will be. :-D


THANKS! The donor motor is a 3.6, i'm gonna keep it stock for now.

TO SEE IF I CAN GET IT RUNNING! :-)

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The goal:

Get this v8 in the coupe

Get this v8 to RUN in the coupe

I'd like to use the v8's ecu, although i'm leaning towards an 034 setup!

I'm still trying to understand it all, before I begin - as this is my first swap!

I figure i'm going to learn by doing....BAPTISM BY FIRE!!!

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Wow, really nice looking car! Make sure you post a lot of pictures along the way.. and don't be afraid of the boost, it's the only way forward :P

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Thanks q20v! I'll post as many pics as i can... i'm going to start taking it apart soon.

Boost sounds delicious (dreaming)

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Very nice Coupe! If you have any thoughts of boosting or perhaps later swapping for 4.2 I would go with some sort of SEM. It will be a lot easier to wire up and start as well.

One thing though, mounting your belts the way you have is not the safest thing to do. They aren't supposed to be any further than 18" from the back of your seat.

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Very nice Coupe! If you have any thoughts of boosting or perhaps later swapping for 4.2 I would go with some sort of SEM. It will be a lot easier to wire up and start as well.

One thing though, mounting your belts the way you have is not the safest thing to do. They aren't supposed to be any further than 18" from the back of your seat.



:stupid: on all points.

Welcome to the V8 club :)

(I give you 2 months before twin turbo's are on the shopping list ;) )

p.s. def go SEM over the stock ECU, lots easier all round if you can afford it.

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I'm on board with Peter and timmmy, going with a stand alone engine management system will be a huge benefit no matter what you decide to put under the hood. I just did my first engine build/turbo install with an 034 IIb and it was VERY straight forward. There is enough information on this forum to help solve any issues you would encounter just by using the Search function. Otherwise, everyone is willing to help as they have all been through the process before.

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Thanks guys!

As for the seat belt setup. The bar is really only a rear strut tower bar... so agreed not the safest.... the belts are temporarily mounted to them (roll em up and lift the rear seats, ta the a 4 seater w/ an arm rest) ...before i decide if i really need a full roll cage for a few auto-x!

I'm a noob when it comes to SEM. Anyone have any btdt or which ones would work? I'm open to any advice or suggestions?

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sayoda wrote:
The goal:

Get this v8 in the coupe

Get this v8 to RUN in the coupe

I'd like to use the v8's ecu, although i'm leaning towards an 034 setup!

I'm still trying to understand it all, before I begin - as this is my first swap!

I figure i'm going to learn by doing....BAPTISM BY FIRE!!!


Well at least it sounds like you belong at this forum. The baptism by fire mentality is the hardest roadblock to mentally get past, after that it is just learning, researching and doing. Good luck and nice project.

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where exactly in mass are you located? I'm in rhode islanding building a v8 swap too, and a 5 cylinder turbo. Actually I live in ma but my shop/garage is located in bristol,ri.

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Did you grab the V8 Torsen rear diff????

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ah I didnt check your location, MA, I work in Burlington MA, live across the border in NH (I couldnt bare the thought of being a Masshole ;) )

Plenty of geekers in the area to help out as you proceed.

With regards to SEM:

Cheap = megasquirt. It will do the job but youll be out in the cold on your own when it comes to hooking it up and tuning pretty much. Not a lto of BTDT on V8 Audis for that SEM.

Middle Ground = VEMS, some support on here for that.

034 EFI = big knowledge base here will help a lot, higher price tag than 1 or 2, but worth it for the hastle free approach IMHO.

Others .... quite a few others out there for more or less $$

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ah I didnt check your location, MA, I work in Burlington MA, live across the border in NH (I couldnt bare the thought of being a red and white plate Masshole driver ;) )

Plenty of geekers in the area to help out as you proceed.

With regards to SEM:

Cheap = megasquirt. It will do the job but youll be out in the cold on your own when it comes to hooking it up and tuning pretty much. Not a lto of BTDT on V 78 Audis for that SEM.

Middle Ground = VEMS, some support on here for that.

034 EFI = big knowledge base here will help a lot, higher price tag than 1 or 2, but worth it for the hastle free approach IMHO.

Others .... quite a few others out there for more or less $$

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congrats! I'm also in the process of an engine swap on my coupe quattro (3B). First swap and learning as you go is the way to do it! Good luck - I'll be watching this project closely :)

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Welcome and loving the project so far.What are your plans (if any) for brakes?

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Updated my address! Glad their is a bunch of geekers close by :P

I did grab the v8 diff and plan to use it! already have a spare 90 diff to play with too...

Thanks Timmmy for the lowdown on the sem... of course the only one i'm tempted with is the most $

My plans are to keep the brakes stock for now (stainless steel lines are already installed)... once i figure out mounting the crap behind the engine.

But i really like wilwood (4 pots) brakes, but that comes with the 5 lug conversion that i'm putting off for now...

plus i've found the brakes on the 034 site :wink:

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awesome project :woowoo:


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The goal:

Get this v8 in the coupe

Get this v8 to RUN in the coupe

I'd like to use the v8's ecu, although i'm leaning towards an 034 setup!

I'm still trying to understand it all, before I begin - as this is my first swap!

I figure i'm going to learn by doing....BAPTISM BY FIRE!!!


I can definetly relate :D

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Tits can't wait to see it running.

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Went out and played with the coupe in its current running condition.

The coupe put down 110 hp at the wheels on KTR's dyno.

I'm not into drag racing, but to see if there are any improvements I borrowed my buddies Vector FX2 unit. To record a couple runs!

5 runs averaged together (basically back-to-back)

1/4- 17.17secs @ 78.56mph 60ft-2.342secs 0 to 60- 9.77secs

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