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I’ll powder coat them for you! Gloss clear, maybe? I’ve got several colors already too!

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I’ll powder coat them for you! Gloss clear, maybe? I’ve got several colors already too!


Hey Chuck, I was just going back over our text conversation the other day...looking at the parts you PC’d for your project. You ever make your way over to the Tulsa area?

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Is that an ABY manifold? Mine just came in from Europe today, too bad I don't have a sand blaster :( Those look real nice though

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Spooky Quattro wrote:
Is that an ABY manifold? Mine just came in from Europe today, too bad I don't have a sand blaster :( Those look real nice though


No, just a 3B that came on my donor engine. Similar to the ABY, though. Thanks

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I don’t get to Tulsa too often but I don’t mind the drive...

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I don’t get to Tulsa too often but I don’t mind the drive...


I certainly don’t want you to make a trip just for me...just thought I’d ask. Let me look at my schedule and see when I can make it over to you. I know it’ll be worth it, based on those pics you showed me of yours.

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Not much progress of late. It seems that an S2 3B oil return line is hung up in customs on its journey from the Germany. Been there since 2/5.

Got a couple colors picked out for powder coating...looking forward to that.

Got a question for everyone. Has anyone ever mated the updated metal 7A breather pipe with the rest of the stock 200 3B breather system? It seems that only the first 6 inches or so of the rubber hose is the part that gets mushy. The rest seems pretty good. Here’s a pic of the pieces lined up.

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I would buy the 034 silicone pieces, but I’m getting killed by all the $150-200 purchases that I’ve been making.

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I just did on the urq 3B swap

btw: I found the oil cooler lines for you, if you still need.

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I just did on the urq 3B swap

btw: I found the oil cooler lines for you, if you still need.

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Sweet! Thanks Chris.

I actually put mine in a vise and bent it back into shape. Should be good on those.

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Feel like I’m starting to make some headway. Got a bunch of parts painted today.

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And some of them even made it on the engine.

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I would install that clamp on the coolant hose at water manifold opposite way, so i can have access to it later on.

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I would install that clamp on the coolant hose at water manifold opposite way, so i can have access to it later on.


Will do. Thanks for catching that.

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Customs held my oil return pipe for almost a month, but it finally showed up. While the heat shield from Error404 made it in 3 days. lol

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Also found a manual HVAC from a B4 Cabriolet. Seems the salvage yard lost the knobs and trim piece though. If anyone has those, please let me know.

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And I’m starting to mock up the cooling system. My donor 3B didn’t come with a hardline for the heater piping. Instead, it had this setup and the after run pump was removed/bypassed.

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So, I am doing something similar, but with new hoses. Anyone see any issues with how I have the after run pump plumbed and mounted?

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Also mocking up the oil return so I can modify the oil pan extension.

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I would source the coolant hard pipe shouldn't be too hard to find one. Not sure I like or would trust those plastic fittings.

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I would source the coolant hard pipe shouldn't be too hard to find one. Not sure I like or would trust those plastic fittings.


Thanks for the feedback Austin. I’ll look for one from an S2 or look into adding a nipple to my 7A hard pipe, but not gonna let it hold me up. The reason I say that is because these fittings were on it and they were, surprisingly, in really good shape. Much better than the generic heater hoses they were attached to. And the heater hose and am using is rated for like 450F.

Got this pic from Chuck. I’m excited, to say the least.

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Also got the heat shield mounted. One piece of the puzzle at a time, for me.

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Couple things done tonight.

S2 3B Oil return at oil pan extension
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Combination of 7A and 200 3B breather system
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S2 3B charge hose and TIP piping. Had to make due with another off the shelf product in the bypass piping. Not ideal, but it should work.
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I spent a few hours on Sunday getting the coupe on jack stands and removing the front end so I could get to the crank bolt. This was so I could swap over the water pump and timing belt from the 7A to the 3B, since these parts only had 2k miles on them from when I worked on the replacement 7A.

Also painted the engine brackets, finished up the coolant lines, and mounted the AC compressor to make sure there were no interference issues with the oil filter adapter. It’s a tight fit, but hopefully no issues. I’ve heard that the AAN oil filter adapter may work better.

I think I might take a stab at modifying my CQ coolant/heater hard line to add in a connection for the afterrun connection, but not sure yet.

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I modified one back then:

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I modified one back then:

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Thanks for pic. I have a welder and want to give it a shot, but I haven't used it much. So, a pressure test would be wise before I put it into service. :wink:

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I modified one back then:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/quattro4l ... 940831787/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thanks for pic. I have a welder and want to give it a shot, but I haven't used it much. So, a pressure test would be wise before I put it into service. :wink:
Good idea to tie in the after run pump. Are you going tig or might it?

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Good idea to tie in the after run pump. Are you going tig or might it?

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My welder is just a cheapo mig/fluxcore.

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Does anyone know if the oil filter housings are different between the AAN and 3B 200?

When I mounted the AC compressor, I noticed that it is coming into contact with the turbo oil supply line flange that connects to the 3B's oil filter housing. It looks like the oil supply line on the AAN housing is at a slightly different angle then the 3B 200 housing (see pics below). Just want to confirm.

If true, I would like to see if anyone has one for sale. I could trade my 3B 200 housing.

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Good idea to tie in the after run pump. Are you going tig or might it?

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My welder is just a cheapo mig/fluxcore.


Ah ok. Hope it come out good. I think I got a 7a tube somewhere if you end up needing one. Probably can tig it for ya if you want also.

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Good idea to tie in the after run pump. Are you going tig or might it?

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Ah ok. Hope it come out good. I think I got a 7a tube somewhere if you end up needing one. Probably can tig it for ya if you want also.

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Thanks, I'll let you know if I do need one.

Here are a couple of pics showing the interference with the AC compressor and the 3B oil filter housing. As some have confirmed on the FB page, an AAN oil filter is different and necessary to run AC in the 7A stock location. It’s also right in the S2/RS2 section of the ersatz S2 site. http://www.20v.org/s2/home.html

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I also got some parts mounted up.

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Ooh, ahh! Beautiful

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