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Audi 90 quattro 2.5 TDI, now S2 Limo project

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Do an ecu-upgrade to odb flashable edc15vm+ and change to a gtb2260vk.
The ecu can be bought for €20-30 and vw t4 software with vnt-control can be flashed into it.


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Can you bring that steering wheel if you are not using it? Thanks!

Will do, I just saw it in the shop yesterday. A new battery seems to have helped the starting A LOT.

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smirre wrote:
Do an ecu-upgrade to odb flashable edc15vm+ and change to a gtb2260vk.
The ecu can be bought for €20-30 and vw t4 software with vnt-control can be flashed into it.


That was my plan while back, using GT22V,

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however with the car being just a daily driver I really don't need to go through the pain.. most of the items you are listing are not available on this continent and would have to be imported in. Wish we had the kind of diesel market you guys have there!

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ralleyquattro wrote:
smirre wrote:
Do an ecu-upgrade to odb flashable edc15vm+ and change to a gtb2260vk.
The ecu can be bought for €20-30 and vw t4 software with vnt-control can be flashed into it.


That was my plan while back, using GT22V,


however with the car being just a daily driver I really don't need to go through the pain.. most of the items you are listing are not available on this continent and would have to be imported in. Wish we had the kind of diesel market you guys have there!

Cheers

That it is entirely true. You have a quite large 4-cylinder tdi market and the ecu does not have to come from a 5 cyl car.
IF I have understood everything correctly all the ecu's with number 038 906 012 xx is edc15vm+

This sticker doesn't say edc15vm+
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-JETTA-GOLF-B ... 60&vxp=mtr"

But this one does:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-02-Volkswa ... 1d&vxp=mtr"
Both are on your side of the pond and the first is even in Canada.

It can also be put into a neat little package:
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From this thread: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=416364"


There is more info on tdiclub.com regarding ael with edc15vm+ ecu.


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Oooh, I do like that... looks very neat. Thanks for the pictures, I might have to rethink my reluctance.

So, where does one get vw t4 software with vnt-control?

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Pm me i can share from 151hp, 111kw. I use it for project.


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My dd should also get this treatment. Awaiting answer from potential seller.

This file should do it:
http://www.chiptuners.org/forums/viewto ... f=6&t=1726


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I had a chance to take couple of pictures of the new airbox setup.
Lucky for me the 2.0L Euro engine uses the same kind of MAF but installed backwards:

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Turning the lid 180 degrees allowed me to use it in my setup.

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It is very close to the intake, but fits where it touches as someone would say.

Car is running better than ever and I am having a blast with it.

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Very nice solution! :)


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Guys I'm trying to update a audi 80 b4 tdi to 68 pin ecu. I already read all the topic, btw impressive project. Please help me to wire a 55 pin tdi to 68 pin.
I know i need to change the top of the injection pump, air flow meter. But i already did try to wire it and it didnt start. Maybe its because of the IQ. But still my wiring wasnt good because the n75 stared clicking when i put the ignition on.

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Hi Martin. I m back following your diesel project. How is it going out there ?

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The only issue so far is the vibrating propshaft after a hanger bearing replacement, hopefully it just needs a readjustment.
Otherwise it has been perfect, knock on wood.

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Love these five cylinders.

Would appreciate a video of a pull, cruise and rapid take-off.

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love this project...I've got a guy in Ottawa who's sitting on the same engine and wants to drop it in an UrS4 or something but is too much of a tool to know what he's doing...I`ll wait for him to need some money and snatch the engine for cheap...but I gotta be honest - you need a Holset man :) no VNT to worry about, great spool and lots of power at 1/3 of the price...my 2.0 PD is loving it...

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Emil, have you got that thing spooling well now? Would my AHU be able to spool it using a stock fuel pump with injectors and a tune?

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Oh yeah :) here's the boost with the stock WG setting...that's just first and second gear

https://youtu.be/nwbs0xa2zrI

Car goes like a stink right now. ..I've got it boosting to 36psi with no issues

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ralleyquattro wrote:
The only issue so far is the vibrating propshaft after a hanger bearing replacement, hopefully it just needs a readjustment.
Otherwise it has been perfect, knock on wood.


I did balance myself but it was not perfect. Need to send to machine shop to do the right job.
Did you go to the diesel 4 cyl. ECU ?

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...but is too much of a tool to know what he's doing.

I know the same guy and I am not sure he would like to hear this opinion. Infact I know he would not like to hear this.

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...but is too much of a tool to know what he's doing.

I know the same guy and I am not sure he would like to hear this opinion. Infact I know he would not like to hear this.


fascinating intel...also completely irrelevant to Martin's thread - feel free to threaten me over pm next time ;)

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Oh yeah :) here's the boost with the stock WG setting...that's just first and second gear

https://youtu.be/nwbs0xa2zrI

Car goes like a stink right now. ..I've got it boosting to 36psi with no issues

Spool isn't very impressive.

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.also completely irrelevant to Martin's thread

Just like your post about someone whom you rubbed the wrong way. i.e. irrelevant to Martin's thread but if you want to take an immature stance about it then so be it.
back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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How is it going Martin ?

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Doing well, thanks.
Next step on the car is to disable afterglow.
Even though I have a 150 Amp alternator, because its a V-belt it is not liking the afterglow.
So I've asked if it can be done via chiptuning or VAGCom.
We'll see... otherwise car runs great... got 5.5L/100km on last tank... and its getting cold!

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83 80 q - Euro 2-door!!
85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
93 90 quattro - S2 Limo copy
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Good.
Take too much Amp. It ll not affect cold start ?

You setted to EDC15 ECU ?

Good on fuel, nice.

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Afterglow comes in after the engine starts, so not worried about cold start.
It had no issues before:


Link to video

I have the stock AEL ecu which is working nicely.

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83 80 q - Euro 2-door!!
85 Ur-q - Euro with 3B
93 90 quattro - S2 Limo copy
93 80q Avant - 2.5TDI, 6-speed in the works
04 A4q avant 1.8T USP 6-speed
04 A4q avant 3.0 USP 6-speed


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