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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:21 pm 
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Made some progress today...

The new pedal cluster is in, as is the clutch MC and 034 short shift kit
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I learned a couple years ago that the easiest way to get to the lunch MC is to take out the brake booster. It's now back in too.

Got the right grommet for the firewall and put the wires from the outside temp sensor through it too...
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Also got rid of the lock cable tha makes you be in "Park" before you can take the key out...
This side is attached to the shift lever on the auto
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The other end attaches right above the ignition switch (seen here from an angle only an iPhone can see)
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The top pops off...
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To reveal this...
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Which pops straight up once the clips are taken off.

Now the key comes right out!

All I need now is the last mounting bracket for the transmission and I can everything else back together. Stay tuned!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:24 pm 
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Lots of progress today.

Got the transmission in, and almost everything put back together

The snow all melted around me today and I knew it would be warm so I took most of the day off work
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The transmission went in pretty easily but I had my retired dad come by to help align from the other side. Once that was in input in the axles (new boots and repacked)
The drivers side is the one with one indented ring, (to the left of my label) the PS has 2 indented rings
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The short shifter got hooked up and WOW is it cool. The shifts are super short and very tight. I did the rebuild of the U-Joint mentioned above and everything is stiff and feels great.
The first time I hooked it up the shift rod was hitting the frame of the car so I am glad I checked before buttoning it up.

With the axles in and the trans I put the starter and alternator back and was able to reinstall the PS motor mount and get rid of the engine support on top.

Then I got put the serpentine belt back and the radiator fans.

Finally, the subframe went back own with the transmission mounts.

It got dark so I had to stop but all I have left is the exhaust which will have to be modified. The Y-Pipe will hit the back of the transmission and ill need to rig some way to support the drivers side pipes.

I also have to redo the Vacuum routing on top of the engine. It's different for auto and manuals.

I can't wait to get this thing running! At least I can close the hood now!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:18 pm 
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Got everything back together today but am stuck on a couple things.

Vacuum routing - the 12v.org diagrams are gone - I have some old photos of my 93 90q that should help this get sorted.

Car won't start! - cranks but no start. I am getting a no signal from engine speed sensor code. I think I just need to adjust the depth of the sensor.

Exhaust needs re-routing. The manual is longer than the auto was so the Pipes try to come together too far forward now. I need to have a shop fab up from the down pipes to the mid muffler. Anybody have a good shop in Cincinnati they can recommend?

Back up lights - I don't seem to have the harness to connect to the back-up light switch here...
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I need #13 here but I don't see it in my harness...
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Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm SO close.

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The reverse lights on automatics is part of the neutral safety switch which will need to bypass to a) get the vehicle to turn over, and b) to get the reverse lights to work. If the motor is turning over then you have the starter interlock bypassed so this would not be the issue with it not starting. For the reverse lights you will need to pull the reverse light wiring from the neutral safety switch and pull it to the transmission. Have you checked for fuel and spark for the no-start and have you scanned it for codes?

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The reverse lights on automatics is part of the neutral safety switch which will need to bypass to a) get the vehicle to turn over, and b) to get the reverse lights to work. If the motor is turning over then you have the starter interlock bypassed so this would not be the issue with it not starting. For the reverse lights you will need to pull the reverse light wiring from the neutral safety switch and pull it to the transmission. Have you checked for fuel and spark for the no-start and have you scanned it for codes?


Thanks for the help, I got a couple of these things figured out today. I pulled the code for the no start issue and it was a "no signal" from the engine speed sensor. First thing I did this morning was to uninstall and reinstall that in the hopes that I just had it in there wrong before. Whatever I did fixed the issue because it started right up!.

The reverse lights issue is going to be an easy fix now that I know what to do. I checked the continuity of the 2 pins on that back-up light socket on the trans this morning and was able to confirm that there is continuity only when the trans is in reverse. So I went to the junkyard and found a 5 pin harness pigtail to use. Only pins 2 & 3 are used so I have a harness I made ready to install once I figure out where I want to come though the firewall.
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I used this image to jumper the starter lockout and will use the two marked wires for the reverse lights....
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That leaves just the exhaust issue. I rigged up some flexible exhaust to go from the drivers side downpipe to the Y pipe since the cat won't fit due to the new trans being longer than the old one.
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I did this because I wasn't too comfortable with the exhaust just coming straight out of the manifold. This way at least the heat can go through the pipes.

I was able to get the car to drive today too. The engine is all whacked out because of the vacuum issue and the lack of a real exhaust but it drives!

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I got just about everything working today. I had the front coil pack go bad on me at some point so the engine was running like crap even after the exhaust was put on. I had a spare set of coils from the donor engine last year and got everything installed today.

The difference is amazing. This car is actually fun to drive now!

I ported out the heads last year with the engine swap work and I added a couple other mods when I put everything else back together. I put in a deshrouded 471A MAF that I found at a yard recently and a ported VAP RXTB throttle body I just got as well.

Lastly, I finally have the solution to the broken front bumper problem (from the day I got the car). I found a set of emerald S2 bumpers overseas that are set to come my way! Hopefully I won't even have to reprint them!

I never would've guessed that I would spend my time and money in this car and not the S6

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I never would've guessed that I would spend my time and money in this car and not the S6[/quote]


Yes, A two Audi habit can be time & money consuming habit :wink:
A few questions. What did you use for transmission mounts? The standard o1a 5-speed quattro transmission mounts or did you have to get something else?
Did you reuse the subframe from the automatic or did you use a subframe for a manual transmission vehicle?
TIA, Chris

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Chris,
The transmission mounts and subframe are the same for the FWD Auto and FWD 5 speed - the only thing I had to find were the brackets that mount to the transmission housing and sit on the transmission mounts. I believe the mounts are the same FWD to Quattro - I don't know about the subframe.

They were different on the Auto Trans than on the Manual. I was at one point thinking I would use a 99 Passat FWD transmission and I think now that I could have. My expectation is that every O12 transmission has the same mounting holes for those brackets and that the brackets are the variable that decides what subframe the transmission can sit on.

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Here's the way I re-routed the Vacuum lines.

I had a 93 90Q so I had a few pics and some memory of how the lines should be routed. the biggest difference in the automatic is that it has a second large vacuum line that joins up with the brake booster's line on the way to the Intake Manifold. It tee's off from the DS valve cover breather. The Auto does not have that.

Also, the Auto has two hole that are plugged up. One is on the air intake on the "Snorkel" or intake silencer and the other is on the black/yellow one-way valve that is between the brake booster and the IM

here's what you are eliminating from the Auto routing
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and the changes you make are as follows....

Remove the line that goes from the black/yellow one way valve up above the brake booster to the Throttle Body. That will be re-run to the other Black/Yellow one way valve that was capped. Eliminate all the mess from that black/yellow valve to the IM inlet. That means you need to make a single piece valve cover breather too.

Uncap the intake silencer's plug and run a short length from there to the throttle body.

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Finally got the Euro Cabrio bumpers from paint yesterday and got them installed today...
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The current fleet...
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Looks great! Your hard work is paying off. Keep it up!

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Did you have to purchase any other transmission brackets than those mentioned in this topic? Do you know is there any diffirence between 4cyl and 6cyl brackets? I'm trying to find out which parts I need with 2.8 automatic to 1.8t man swap.

btw. the car looks nice.


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The trans sits on the subframe so I think it should be the same.
The engine will have different brackets for sure.

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grillage wrote:
The trans sits on the subframe so I think it should be the same.
The engine will have different brackets for sure.


I'll manufacture engine brackets that sit on v6 mounts. There is some kind of bracket behind the transmission, so did you mount that also? 893399151A and 893399541A (exploded view http://www.partscats.info/audi/en/?i=ca ... _id=131195" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


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I don't remember having to deal with that. I wonder if it is the same as the auto.

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digging this up from the grave...
what did you end up doing for the exhaust on this car?
also, whould it be posible to install a single cat on OBD-2 car and what would you do with the 2nd sensor?

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I ended up having an exhaust shop delete the one cat. I asked them to remove both but they didnt and I haven't gotten the other one deleted yet.

As for the OBD2 car with no O2's rear of the cats, I'd think it would throw a code but I'm not sure

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I bought them on ebay.uk
The rs2 bumpers and late cabriolet bumper (like mine) use the same dogs and turns as the porsche 993
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Porsche-9 ... 4d2d46caae
I painted them along with the bumper

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I had in mind only air intakes with fogs. I see that yours were just plug'n'play, not like mines :-x
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eventually i got them fitted but some man-hours had to be spent for that.... here is shown how this issue was sorted by other guy
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Haven't updated this in quite a while. All is good, did a little repainting on the hood just before Carlisle this year.

Here's the car after a good bath this morning:

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Looks very good. Post more pics when you get a chance. Getting inspired to build a cabriolet.
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Got some new wheels back in May but finally put tires on them and mounted today:
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This is currently my only Audi so it's getting some love these days

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I like the other wheels better :hide:

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This car served me well for almost 10 years!
I sold it yesterday to a nice gentleman from Michigan

Long may she run!

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