I run a gt28rs on the s4 that I've been hillclimbing. should suit your power levels and I have no complaints in the spool dept. Also, that is a lot of gauges that you will never have time to look at. Two simple red lights in the dash are what I consider ideal. One for oil press and one for temp.

I run a stock Exhaust mani, and stock intake for an AAN. No porting needed. If its a budget build, run stock AAN manifolds, a reasonable intercooler (not a 5k intercooler) and spend the savings from port work on track time. I also cannot stress how much fun hillclimbs are. I do have a pretty good sized oil cooler and oil temps get excited pretty quickly.

Test fit some seats, I think you'll find that the stock front seat mount gets in the way pretty quickly. Might want to cut it out now before you get too far.

The main hoop is interesting... any particular reason for bending the feet in so far?

 

Gauges: got most on ebay, won't use all of them, just seeing what will work.
I plan on installing a low oil pressure light and a hi temp light.

Cage: the bend isn't as radical as the pic shows, it's setup that way because of where to "foot" is mounted (see pic), I plan on modifying and adding more tubes this year.

 

I would think that you should at least go with some nice forged pistons like what yodasfro had for sale a while back. Just to help with longevity. Also, with the b4 front hubs and b3 rear hubs your front wheels will stick out a little further.

 

i think those two post cover it perfectly

 

The 07k could easily reach your goals almost in NA trim. People are getting 200whp NA. Because the engine is littered with audi rings, and is made by VAG, it would be swapable and still stay in NASA rules. It would be lighter, shorter, package better, offer a cheap replacement and not need a built motor to reach your goals and be reliable. The 07k is going to flow more in stock form than most heavily modified 20v heads on this site. IT will rev to 8500 without modifications.

Just another option

 

The 07k could easily reach your goals almost in NA trim. People are getting 200whp NA. Because the engine is littered with audi rings, and is made by VAG, it would be swapable and still stay in NASA rules. It would be lighter, shorter, package better, offer a cheap replacement and not need a built motor to reach your goals and be reliable. The 07k is going to flow more in stock form than most heavily modified 20v heads on this site. IT will rev to 8500 without modifications.

Just another option

07k
What engine is that??

 

5 cyl from the Rabbit, Jetta, TT-RS, etc.

 

Ahhhhhh.... grasshopper!!
Now can I find one for $200?!?!?

 

If you look really hard, but most are in that 400-650$ range with under 50k miles. Question is, will you be able to find a 7a for 200$ in 10 years?

 

Hank, it's hard to see the life of a race car exceeding 5 years. i think he'll have more issues finding body panels in 10 years than replacement engines.

On the flipside, 07k is on my upgrade list.

End of the day quickest way to get on the track. a motor swap is peanuts when you have a completed car.

Also if the cage is legal, run it. I'd seriously consider some rethinking for the next main hoop. ACQ on this board has some great pictures in his thread as to why a well done/overdone cage is imperative.

 

If you look really hard, but most are in that 400-650$ range with under 50k miles. Question is, will you be able to find a 7a for 200$ in 10 years?

Yeah, I have to depend on my local pick 'n pull... they're starting to get new VW bugs and A4's with tons of V6's..
I'm hoping they'll get some of the new 5cyls soon...

 

They are around here. The place I grabbed my side skirts from had a bunch sitting on the ground. I can't for the life of me remember the name, but they part cars in Craigslist.

 

With over 70% of all jettas being sold with 2.5L engines, and the sales figures for the Jetta in North America being around 125,000 per year since 2005, It is safe to say there won't be a shortage of 07k's in the upcoming years. Wish I could say the same for hte roughly 8000 20v aan, 3b or 7a's in the country.

 

LOL Hanks 07K propaganda has begun

 

Hank, any idea what the weight difference between a 7A and 07K is?

 

physical weight loss on the longblock is around 25lbs, but another 20lbs worth of stuff has been relocated to the rear of the engine over the axles instead of over the nose of the car.

 

How much work is it to put an 07k in a CQ?

 

Not hard if you have the same budget as a built AAN/3b setup.

 

Says the guy that makes and sells the swap parts

 

With over 70% of all jettas being sold with 2.5L engines, and the sales figures for the Jetta in North America being around 125,000 per year since 2005, It is safe to say there won't be a shortage of 07k's in the upcoming years. Wish I could say the same for hte roughly 8000 20v aan, 3b or 7a's in the country.

OK Mr. Hank!

Here's some questions about the swap:

Is this engine ever used in a "longitudinal" configuration"??
What flywheel/clutch do I use?
Will the 4000 "016" input shaft fit in the 07K's pilot bearing??
what about the throw out bearing and slave cyl?
Will the bell housing bolt up?
Will the oil pan clear the subframe?
What do I use for engine mount brakets (I assume I have to make my own)?
Is this engine easy to convert to 034 1C EFI??
Does it have any kind of variable intake or variable cam timing I have to control...?

 

Is this engine ever used in a "longitudinal" configuration"?? ---No, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible
What flywheel/clutch do I use?---- we have a flywheel that accepts 7a clutch kits
Will the 4000 "016" input shaft fit in the 07K's pilot bearing??-------- yes, but i would strongly recommend a torsen based trans for any road racing anyway(01a or 01e)
what about the throw out bearing and slave cyl?-------plug and play using 016 or 01a/01e stuff
Will the bell housing bolt up?-----yes
Will the oil pan clear the subframe?-------we have an oil pan
What do I use for engine mount brakets (I assume I have to make my own)?------have you covered
Is this engine easy to convert to 034 1C EFI??----------Yes, the motor has an internal 60-2 wheel built in and vr sensor, just need to wire it up
Does it have any kind of variable intake or variable cam timing I have to control...?----Yes, has Variable intake. You can control it with a GPO, or mechancially ditch the VVT by choosing which one you want, low end or high end. You can do anythign inbetween if wired via a GPO

Hope that helps.

 

Hank! Yer killin' me!!
Too many "moving parts"
I get the feeling if I go this route, I would have to start with a N/A setup, then at some point, once the chassis is developed add a turbo....

 

Is this engine ever used in a "longitudinal" configuration"?? ---No, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible
What flywheel/clutch do I use?---- we have a flywheel that accepts 7a clutch kits
Will the 4000 "016" input shaft fit in the 07K's pilot bearing??-------- yes, but i would strongly recommend a torsen based trans for any road racing anyway(01a or 01e)
what about the throw out bearing and slave cyl?-------plug and play using 016 or 01a/01e stuff
Will the bell housing bolt up?-----yes
Will the oil pan clear the subframe?-------we have an oil pan
What do I use for engine mount brakets (I assume I have to make my own)?------have you covered
Is this engine easy to convert to 034 1C EFI??----------Yes, the motor has an internal 60-2 wheel built in and vr sensor, just need to wire it up
Does it have any kind of variable intake or variable cam timing I have to control...?----Yes, has Variable intake. You can control it with a GPO, or mechancially ditch the VVT by choosing which one you want, low end or high end. You can do anythign inbetween if wired via a GPO

Hope that helps.

I thought this was 01E only. You really have my attention now... 250-300 HP N/A seem reasonable?

 

Will the oil pan clear the subframe?-------we have an oil pan

:drool:

 

Big Hank,
Why didn't point me to yer post on VWvortex??????

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...ed-in-the-proper-direction-in-the-original-quattro.-07k-UrQuattro&highlight=07k

Do you REALLY only weigh 98lbs????????