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#1 ·
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This is what my ignition map looks like in AEMPro.

I haven't been able to find any ignition maps of 034 EFI managed cars similar to mine, and I know there are a ton of 'em out there.

Is this similar to what your timing map looks like? (not the values, the timing map itself)
and how far off do my values look? More than a few who have seen this have commented that my ignition is dangerously high, however the motor doesn't run as well when I pull timing...
This is a bored/stroked AEB (2008cc), 8.5:1 JE's, GT3076r, about as "fully built" as one can get...

any suggestions or screenshots are warmly welcome.

thanks and Happy Holidays
 
#2 ·
Funny I just read your post after looking at the Naples Florida bay camera...
We used to use the Crows nest cam in Venice..as we are going to move up that way in a few years...
Now on to your map...My money is on your base timing not being on zero....as the positive side looks pretty high....sombody with a 1.8t should chime in
thats my 3 cents so far
 
#3 ·
Salsa GTI said:
My money is on your base timing not being on zero
what do you mean by this?

One of the first things I did was to "sync" the timing. This was done by following these instructions:

Syncing the Ignition Timing

This is a reconfirmation of the ignition timing at all conditions. Two people are required for this procedure.

· Connect a timing light to coil #1. Note: some computer controlled timing lights will not give accurate values when running wasted spark ignitions.
· Open AEMPro and Connect
· Go to the Ignition | Ignition Map
· Set the Ignition Map to a conservative value that is marked on the crank. This is specific to the application. Most motors have at least a TDC mark (0 degrees) on the crank.
· Go to the Ignition | Advance Ign | Ignition Trims

· Set all ignition trims to zero
· Go to Configure | ECU Setup | Set Ignition
· Start the engine.
· The engine timing from timing light should agree with the Ign Timing parameter in the Set up Ignition Timing window.
· If the values do not match, use the Advance or Retard buttons to make the timing light match the displayed value Ign Timing.

Note: the Advance and Retard buttons will effect the actual engine timing, not the Ign Timing parameter.

· When the values match click OK

The timing must now be synced at high engine speeds. This ignition timing drift is most common on magnetic-type pickup sensors.

· Rev the engine near the rev limiter and verify the ignition timing has not moved around.
· If the timing is not synced at high engine speed, adjust the Pickup Delay Comp option until the Ign Timing parameter and timing light match.
· Make sure to undo all ignition trims and put the normal Ignition Map back in the calibration when finished.
· It is advisable to save the calibration file as a new name once the ignition timing has been set.

The ignition timing parameter was 10.07 degrees, therefore I pressed the advance/retard buttons until actual timing was at 10.07. Is this what would be referred to as my base timing? (10.07 degrees advanced)
 
#5 ·
034 Doesn't have a map like this (yet) So i can't post something you can relate to.

I have a 1.8T "as built as it gets" as, well with AEB Head and I can tell you that my numbers are no where near yours.

At 25PSI (On GT2871) & 7500rpm I have ~16* Advanced
I pretty much have everything about 10* less than you.

I don't know how AEM calculates final timing, but if it takes the value in your cell and substracts the offest you entered (10.07) and then adds or substracts all your other compensation factors (CLT, AIT, Brometer, etc) then you probably end up with values in the same range I have.

Also what boost level are you running ?